The Always Wonderful Joel is away this week and The Always Tiny Mike fills in! They break down the first week of the fantasy hockey season, the Patrik Nemeth/Tyler Seguin fight and ex-teammates fighting , the start to the San Jose Sharks season and Malcolm Subban‘s revenge against the Boston Bruins. They are also joined by Dan Rice (@DRDiabloTHW) as he brings us the heads up on: – Nico Hischier, Will Butcher and Marcus Johansson are part of a new, faster brand of New Jersey Devils hockey – Has Cory Schneider returned to form after a down season? – Who exactly is Jesper Bratt? – The DevilsRead More →

The guys are back and are full of overreactions to the first week of the NHL season! Joel is thrilled with his Leafs and Carl is cautiously optimistic that the Avs won’t completely break his heart. They cover: – The Toronto Maple Leafs have been scoring like crazy. Sure, they might keep it up all year, but can they hold their leads? – The fashion police were out in full force this week. When will it end? – Aside from fashion penalties, there is also an increase in all penalties to start the season. Why? Also, how come? Lastly, why? – Carl’s Avalanche weren’t entirelyRead More →

The guys are back and they celebrate the return of hockey. Awards, Stanley Cup predictions and how much hair Jagr will have by the end of the season are the main topics on the fly. The fantasy league was drafted just minutes before the show was recorded and Carl complained about his picks even though he shouldn’t have. Spoilers: they didn’t pick the Oilers to win the cup. Confusion arises around the global “we” vs. the royal “we”. Is it Brett or Brent Burns? The guys are both on Team Joel for the Calder Trophy and make their picks for Hart, Norris, Vezina and JackRead More →

Joel is off hanging out with famous basketball players so Carl and Tiny Mike are left to hold it down. As Joel is off with the Toronto Raptors, Carl and Mike talk about how they handle themselves around celebrities. Do they stay composed? Do they even care about meeting a celebrity or famous athlete? And from that, would they want to be a celebrity themselves? With the seasons changing, Carl and Tiny reminisce about what makes fall such a great time and compare and contrast the weather between their two cities. Speaking of summer, Summer Girls by the Lyte Funkie Ones (LFO) has arguably theRead More →

The guys are back with their final division preview, which means it is almost time for hockey! They start with some news: NBC will be showing the Olympics instead of NHL hockey, since the NHL isn’t going to the Olympics. Is this a ploy by NBC to get back at Uncle Gary or just NBC doing what makes money? Jaromir Jagr officially won’t be starting the NHL season. Where does he end up and will he play in the NHL again? The Vegas Golden Knights will have season ticket holders’ names on the ice. A nice touch or tacky? And now, for the LAST DIVISIONRead More →

The guys are back and Carl is fired up! They start off the show covering the news of the week, including: – The Calgary Flames made an announcement regarding their new arena and Carl is not happy about it – Matt Duchene showed up to camp and Nikita Zadorov agreed to a contract. Will that cheer Carl up? – David Pastrnak signed an extension with the Boston Bruins. Is it good? – Brian Little signed a not little contract with the Winnipeg Jets. Why? They also preview the Metropolitan division: – After getting the 1st overall draft pick, can the New Jersey Devils get better?Read More →

The guys recorded a little early this week, missing out all of the hot PTO signings late in the week. However, they were able to talk about the Flames’ signing of Sam Bennett and preview the Central division. – We learn that starting the show by talking about the Colorado Avalanche is a bad idea if we want Carl to be in a good mood. The Avalanche have to be better than last year (right?), but are they still the worst in the league? – The Dallas Stars have a new goalie (Ben Bishop) and an expensive new winger (Alex Radulov). Can this return themRead More →

The guys are back and hockey is almost back as well. One of the signs that hockey is back is the annual 4th Line Podcast Divisional Previews! This week it gets kick started by looking at the Pacific division, including: – The Vancouver Canucks signed Thomas Vanek this week. Do they know how to properly tank? What will their goaltenders give them, as Jacob Markström is handed the reigns in net? – The Vegas Golden Knights actually get to play hockey soon. Will their defense be enough to carry them? – The Los Angeles Kings are a team that used to be really good. How doRead More →

The guys are joined by Rob Vollman, author of Hockey Abstract 2017,as they talk about the latest edition of Hockey Abstract, including: – the evolution of Rob’s Hockey Abstracts – how best to evaluate goaltenders – what can be done to take coaching in consideration during a stastical evaluation – review Rob’s updated player usage charts in the latest charts – find out what stat Rob wishes didn’t exist and what data he wishes he could have Tweet to the show account with the hashtag #HockeyAbstract and retweet the pinned tweet for Episode 146 to be entered to win a copy of Hockey Abstract 2017.Read More →

The guys are joined by German Villegas from the Modern Manhood Podcast ( In this episode we talk about the state of masculinity in hockey, especially in the NHL. How does the way that a person views manliness impact their view on violence, injures, sexuality and more? Modern Manhood is a podcast that mostly concentrates on the lives and viewpoints of many different male voices talking about their own masculinity. The biggest problem we have as males is that we don’t talk about our own experiences and problems about our own manhood; and that being a man now looks a lot different that it usedRead More →